Ch. 61Wingman (Continued)

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Shuya, Mai, and Little Senior Sister go to the movies and discuss it afterward.
  • They meet the Quintuplets and their mother, Rena, at a dessert shop.
  • Little Senior Sister feeds Itsuki, breaking the ice.
  • The Quintuplets mistake Mai for Shuya's girlfriend.
  • Mai and Little Senior Sister discuss the movie they watched together.

Character Developments

  • Little Senior Sister: Shows kindness to Itsuki, indicating she's not as aloof as she seems.
  • Mai: Acts as a wingman for Shuya and Little Senior Sister, showing maturity and understanding.
  • Shuya: Maintains a calm demeanor despite the awkward situation with the Quintuplets and Rena.

Significant Themes

  • Friendship: Mai and Little Senior Sister bond over their shared love for the movie.
  • Misunderstandings: The Quintuplets misinterpret Mai's relationship with Shuya.
  • Communication: Little Senior Sister's act of feeding Itsuki helps ease the tense atmosphere.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya, Mai, and Little Senior Sister: They have a pleasant outing together, with Mai facilitating conversation between Shuya and Little Senior Sister.
  • Little Senior Sister and Itsuki: Their interaction shows Little Senior Sister's kind heart.
  • Mai and the Quintuplets: Mai is mistaken for Shuya's girlfriend, leading to an awkward situation.
  • Shuya and Rena: They share a meaningful look, acknowledging the complex situation with the Quintuplets.

Ch. 62The Last Day

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Mai, Shuya, and Little Senior Sister go to a café together, with Mai and Shuya concealing their date to avoid suspicion.
  • They meet the Quintuplets and Rena, who are initially suspicious of Mai but are won over by her charm.
  • Shuya treats everyone to dessert, and Rena takes the Quintuplets home first.
  • Mai and Shuya discuss their failed attempt to make Rena jealous and decide to continue their plan.

Character Developments

  • Mai demonstrates her skill in misdirection and manipulation, successfully deceiving the Quintuplets and Rena.
  • Shuya shows his concern for Rena's feelings and his ability to keep a secret.
  • Little Senior Sister is naive and easily influenced, calling Mai and the Quintuplets "big sister" after a brief interaction.
  • The Quintuplets are easily won over by Mai's compliments and become fond of her.
  • Rena is perceptive and notices the unusual atmosphere between Mai and Shuya but doesn't dwell on it.

Significant Themes

  • The theme of deception and misdirection is prominent, with Mai skillfully concealing the truth.
  • The power dynamics between Shuya, Mai, and Little Senior Sister are explored, with Mai and Shuya working together to deceive the others.
  • The theme of first impressions and initial reactions is shown through the Quintuplets' quick change of heart towards Mai.

Character Interactions

  • Mai and Shuya work together to deceive the others, with Mai using her charm and Shuya providing support.
  • The Quintuplets are easily influenced by Mai's compliments, showing their naivety and eagerness to please.
  • Rena is perceptive but doesn't press the issue, showing her maturity and understanding.
  • Little Senior Sister is naive and easily influenced, showing her innocence and lack of experience in social situations.

Ch. 63Shocking! Shuya Saw It Too...!

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Shuya attempts to draw a Vermilion Bird Talisman but fails comically due to the immense pressure and complexity of the task.
  • He manages to manifest a weak, humorous 'fire turkey' that can only spit fire and make meme-like sounds.
  • Li Shuhong advises Shuya to start with simpler Talismans like the Flame Talisman.
  • Shuya spends a day processing his emotions after Li Shuhong's departure, then returns to the Unfinished Building the next day to find Li Shuhong still there, pretending to have left for dramatic effect.

Character Developments

  • Shuya learns the difficulty of drawing Talismans and starts practicing simpler ones.
  • Li Shuhong shows his playful side and enjoys teasing Shuya.
  • Shuya shows determination to maintain his mental balance despite having a Natural Martial Bone.

Significant Themes

  • The challenges and patience required in learning new skills.
  • The importance of maintaining mental balance and not acting recklessly, especially when given power or success.
  • The complex relationship between a teacher and student, with Li Shuhong acting as both a mentor and a friend.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya and Li Shuhong's interactions are filled with humor and mutual respect, with Li Shuhong often teasing Shuya while providing valuable guidance.
  • Shuya shows appreciation for Li Shuhong's teachings, while Li Shuhong enjoys pushing Shuya's boundaries.

Ch. 64The Blind Student Spotted the Key Detail

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Shuya returns to the company after completing his training and learns that the new episodes of 'Alien Baby Hikari-chan' are ready for recording.
  • He spots his father, Inoue Hikoo, leaving an unfamiliar apartment with a lipstick mark on his collar, leading him to suspect his father has a second wife.
  • Shuya confronts his father at the company, accusing him of infidelity, but it turns out his parents have moved to a new apartment without telling him.
  • The staff reveals that Shuya hadn't noticed his parents' absence from home for weeks, leading to an awkward realization.

Character Developments

  • Shuya: Realizes he's been oblivious to his parents' new living situation and is forced to confront his own lack of awareness.
  • Inoue Hikoo: Shows affection towards Hanazawa Sakura, revealing a softer side despite his eccentric behavior.
  • Hanazawa Sakura: Demonstrates a more understanding and forgiving nature towards Shuya's misunderstanding.

Significant Themes

  • Communication and understanding within families.
  • The consequences of neglecting or misinterpreting important information.
  • The absurdity and humor in misunderstandings.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya and Inoue Hikoo: Their relationship is strained due to Shuya's misinterpretation of events, but they ultimately reach an understanding.
  • Inoue Hikoo and Hanazawa Sakura: Their affection for each other is evident, despite their initial awkwardness in explaining the situation to Shuya.
  • Shuya and Hanazawa Sakura: Their relationship is tested by Shuya's misconception, but they resolve the issue through open communication.

Ch. 65A Riot of Colors, Yet Black

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Inoue Hikoo, Hanazawa Sakura, and Shuya decide to keep their recent events a secret.
  • Shuya moves out but keeps living alone, occasionally visiting his parents.
  • Inoue Hikoo and Hanazawa Sakura are recording voice-overs for a compilation episode of 'Alien Baby Hikari-chan' due to production issues.
  • Inoue Hikoo shares his high standards for Nakamura Cho's song, which should evoke feelings of youth, love, and fate.

Character Developments

  • Shuya maintains his mature and understanding demeanor, accepting his parents' decision to live separately.
  • Inoue Hikoo and Hanazawa Sakura prioritize their relationship, wanting to enjoy life as a couple without Shuya.
  • Inoue Hikoo reveals his high standards and artistic persistence in creating 'Alien Baby Hikari-chan.'

Significant Themes

  • The importance of communication and understanding within families.
  • The pursuit of artistic perfection and personal satisfaction.
  • The exploration of youth, love, and fate through storytelling.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya, Inoue Hikoo, and Hanazawa Sakura discuss their living arrangements and Shuya's studies.
  • Inoue Hikoo shares his creative vision and high standards for 'Alien Baby Hikari-chan' with Shuya.
  • Hanazawa Sakura shows concern for Shuya's well-being and growth.

Ch. 66Ripples Beneath the Calm

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Inoue Hikoo, Shuya's father, presents an absurd demand to Ayako Ishikawa, a songwriter: a song he commissions must sell at least two million copies.
  • Shuya, inspired by his father's challenge, decides to work on a song with Ayako Ishikawa and his stepsister, Hanazawa Sakura (Little Senior Sister).
  • Ayako Ishikawa, angered by Inoue Hikoo's demand, storms out of her house.

Character Developments

  • Shuya: He shows initiative and determination in tackling his father's challenge, demonstrating his musical ambition and confidence.
  • Inoue Hikoo: His eccentric and ambitious nature is further highlighted by his unrealistic sales demand for a commissioned song.
  • Ayako Ishikawa: Her professionalism and dedication to her craft are evident in her anger and refusal to compromise on her artistic integrity.

Significant Themes

  • Ambition vs. Realism: Inoue Hikoo's unrealistic expectations clash with the practical constraints of the music industry, highlighting the tension between ambition and realism.
  • Artistic Integrity: Ayako Ishikawa's refusal to compromise on her creative vision for the sake of sales underscores the importance of artistic integrity.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya and Inoue Hikoo: Their relationship is strained due to Inoue Hikoo's demanding nature, but Shuya still shows respect and initiative in addressing his father's challenge.
  • Shuya and Ayako Ishikawa: Their professional relationship is tested by Inoue Hikoo's demand, but Shuya's determination to work with her on a song suggests a growing mutual respect.
  • Ayako Ishikawa and Inoue Hikoo: Their relationship is tense due to Inoue Hikoo's unrealistic expectations, with Ayako Ishikawa expressing her frustration through her actions.

Ch. 67Filling in the Gaps

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Shuya visits Ayako Ishikawa's home to work on a song with Little Senior Sister.
  • Shuya becomes obsessed with creating the song, neglecting other aspects of his life.
  • Inoue Hikoo, the producer of 'Alien Baby Hikari-chan', is desperate for a new song for the show's theme.
  • Shuya and Little Senior Sister complete their song and bring it to Inoue Hikoo.

Character Developments

  • Shuya: Becomes fully dedicated to creating a song, neglecting his daily life and martial arts practice.
  • Little Senior Sister: Helps Shuya complete the song, showing her musical prowess and dedication.
  • Inoue Hikoo: Struggles to find a suitable song for the anime, showing his determination and desperation.

Significant Themes

  • Obsession and its consequences: Shuya's single-minded pursuit of creating a song leads him to neglect other aspects of his life.
  • The power of collaboration: Shuya and Little Senior Sister's combined efforts result in a completed song.
  • Determination and perseverance: Both Shuya and Inoue Hikoo display strong determination in pursuing their goals.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya and Little Senior Sister: They work together to create a song, showcasing their compatibility and mutual respect.
  • Shuya and Inoue Hikoo: They meet to discuss the song, with Inoue Hikoo initially skeptical but ultimately impressed by Shuya's work.
  • Mai and Shuya: Mai watches over Shuya as he becomes obsessed with creating the song, showing her concern and support.

Ch. 68Seeking the Truth / That Midsummer of Years Past

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Shuya and Little Senior Sister perform their song at the company, impressing everyone, including Inoue Hikoo.
  • The song is recorded and integrated into the animation just before the final deadline.
  • In the anime, Yuzuki learns about Yuichi's past from an old professor and decides to investigate his home for more information.

Character Developments

  • Shuya: Shows confidence in his musical abilities and leadership when he performs with Little Senior Sister.
  • Little Senior Sister: Overcomes her shyness and performs perfectly in front of a crowd, demonstrating her singing skills and professionalism.
  • Yuzuki: Becomes Yuichi's teaching assistant to spend more time with him and starts investigating his past to understand his current state.

Significant Themes

  • Pursuit of Passion: Shuya and Little Senior Sister's song represents their passion for music, while Yuzuki's actions highlight her determination to understand and support Yuichi's passion for art.
  • The Past's Impact on the Present: Yuichi's past as a recognized art genius influences his current life and relationships, as Yuzuki starts uncovering his history.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya and Little Senior Sister: Their collaboration on the song strengthens their bond and mutual respect for each other's talents.
  • Yuzuki and the Old Professor: Yuzuki's relationship with the old professor allows her to learn more about Yuichi's past, fueling her curiosity and desire to help him.
  • Yuzuki and Yuichi: Yuzuki's feelings for Yuichi grow stronger as she learns more about his past, leading her to sneak into his home to find more information.

Ch. 69That Midsummer of Years Past (Continued)

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Yuzuki discovers a locked box in Uesugi Yuichi's room while babysitting Hikari-chan.
  • She finds cheap jewelry, sheet music, sketchbooks filled with portraits of a woman, a photo album, and a homemade CD in the box.
  • Hikari-chan accidentally activates a time-travel device, sending Yuzuki back to the past.

Character Developments

  • Yuzuki shows her caring and responsible side by cleaning Uesugi's room and changing Hikari-chan's diaper.
  • She displays curiosity and determination in her search for information about Uesugi's past.
  • Yuzuki reveals her insecurities and fear of seeing intimate photos of Uesugi with other women.

Significant Themes

  • The power of curiosity and determination.
  • The fear of confronting the truth about one's feelings and the past.
  • The theme of time travel and its consequences.

Character Interactions

  • Yuzuki interacts with Hikari-chan, showing kindness and patience, and even involving him in her search.
  • Hikari-chan, despite his young age, plays a significant role in the story's progression by activating the time-travel device.
  • Yuzuki's internal monologue reveals her thoughts and feelings about Uesugi and her search for information about him.

Ch. 70Striding Toward Our Dreams

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Yuzuki and Hikari-chan travel back in time to 198x, where they discover they're invisible to the past world.
  • Yuzuki witnesses a young Uesugi Yuichi interacting with a girl named Die, who is passionate about music despite her parents' disapproval.
  • Uesugi Yuichi and Die discuss their dreams and family issues, with Die expressing her determination to pursue her musical dreams regardless of her parents' understanding.

Character Developments

  • Yuzuki: Realizes she's traveled back in time and becomes determined to uncover the truth about Uesugi Yuichi's past.
  • Uesugi Yuichi (Young): Shows his artistic side and supports Die's dreams, but is still struggling with his own family's disapproval of his artistic pursuits.
  • Die: Demonstrates her strong personality and unwavering dedication to her musical dreams, despite her parents' disapproval.

Significant Themes

  • Pursuit of dreams despite obstacles (Die, Uesugi Yuichi)
  • The importance of self-belief and determination (Die)
  • The impact of family relationships on personal goals (Uesugi Yuichi, Die)

Character Interactions

  • Yuzuki follows young Uesugi Yuichi and Die, witnessing their close friendship and supportive relationship.
  • Die and Uesugi Yuichi discuss their dreams and family issues, with Die encouraging Uesugi Yuichi to stand firm in his pursuits.

Ch. 71A Famous Painting Is Born

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Uesugi Yuichi and Nakamura Cho discuss their future plans after graduation, with Cho suggesting they move to Tokyo together.
  • They decide to work part-time jobs and perform on the streets to save money for their dream.
  • Uesugi Yuichi starts entering painting competitions to win awards and earn money.
  • A year passes, showing their dedication and growth through various seasons.

Character Developments

  • Uesugi Yuichi gains confidence in his artistic abilities and determination in pursuing his dreams.
  • Nakamura Cho demonstrates maturity and rationality in her approach to their future, showing confidence in their success.
  • Yuzuki Sasaki watches their growth and dedication, moving her and making her realize her feelings for Yuichi.

Significant Themes

  • Pursuit of dreams and the determination to achieve them.
  • The passage of time and its impact on growth and change.
  • The contrast between the protagonists' dedication and Yuzuki Sasaki's stagnation.

Character Interactions

  • Uesugi Yuichi and Nakamura Cho grow closer as they work together towards their shared dream, exchanging smiles and words of encouragement.
  • Yuzuki Sasaki watches their relationship develop from a distance, feeling lonely and left behind.
  • The audience is drawn into the emotional pain of watching Yuzuki Sasaki's isolation, comparing it to the protagonists' growing bond.

Ch. 72Turning Sixteen Years of Feelings into a Song

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Nakamura Cho tries to get Uesugi Yuichi's attention, but he starts drawing her instead, leading to her frustration.
  • Nakamura Cho starts writing songs secretly, avoiding Uesugi Yuichi.
  • Uesugi Yuichi focuses on preparing for a painting competition and saving money for their future in Tokyo.
  • Nakamura Cho plans to confess her feelings to Uesugi Yuichi during her performance at the school's Cultural Festival.

Character Developments

  • Nakamura Cho becomes more assertive and direct in her feelings towards Uesugi Yuichi.
  • Uesugi Yuichi remains focused on his goals and doesn't notice Nakamura Cho's changes initially.
  • Both characters are saving money for their future together in Tokyo.

Significant Themes

  • Pursuit of dreams and independence.
  • Communication and understanding between partners.
  • The courage to express one's feelings.

Character Interactions

  • Nakamura Cho and Uesugi Yuichi's relationship remains strained due to miscommunication.
  • Nakamura Cho's friends, like Yuzuki, are aware of her plans to confess to Uesugi Yuichi.
  • Uesugi Yuichi's focus on his goals leads him to miss Nakamura Cho's hints and changes.

Ch. 73Popularity Soars

  • Nakamura Cho confesses her feelings to Uesugi Yuichi on stage during the school festival, singing a song she wrote for him, "Small Love Song."
  • Uesugi Yuichi reciprocates, and they officially become a couple, much to the audience's delight.
  • The episode ends with Yuzuki Sasaki crying in the corner, hinting at her unexpressed feelings for Uesugi Yuichi.
  • The episode receives widespread praise, and Nakamura Cho's character and "Small Love Song" become instant hits, boosting the anime's popularity and merchandise sales.
  • Hanazawa Sakura, the voice actress for Nakamura Cho, also gains significant popularity due to her character's success.

Ch. 74The Island and the Fox

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Hanazawa Sakura, a renowned voice actress, is making a comeback after a hiatus due to child-rearing and managing her company.
  • Her husband, Inoue Hikoo, owns an animation company, and his animations often feature Hanazawa Sakura as the heroine.
  • The industry awaits the release of Alien Baby Hikari-chan's new song, which could significantly impact the voice acting and ACG industries.
  • Shuya, along with Rena and the Quintuplets, travels to their hometown on a small island for the Obon festival.

Character Developments

  • Hanazawa Sakura: She is trying to stabilize her status in the industry after her resurgence, seeking more accomplishments.
  • Shuya: He is becoming more cautious and aware of potential dangers in unfamiliar places, following Li Shuhong's advice to always carry his weapons.

Significant Themes

  • The challenges of maintaining popularity and success in the entertainment industry.
  • The importance of being prepared and vigilant in unfamiliar or potentially dangerous situations.
  • The influence of faith and belief on the power of supernatural entities.

Character Interactions

  • Hanazawa Sakura and Inoue Hikoo: Their relationship and business collaboration are mentioned, with Inoue's animations often featuring Hanazawa as the heroine.
  • Shuya and the Quintuplets: They travel together to their hometown, with Shuya interacting with Ichika and Nino on the train.
  • Shuya and Rena: They travel together, with Shuya seeking a sense of security from Rena due to the peculiar atmosphere of the island.

Ch. 75Author’s Note / The Year the First Chapter Was Uploaded Was January 11, 2009...

Key Plot Points

  • Shuya sees a fox on the island, sparking curiosity and a sense of mystery.
  • The Quintuplets, excited, confirm the presence of foxes on the island.
  • Shuya feels that there's more to the island than meets the eye.

Character Developments

  • Shuya shows curiosity and a hint of suspicion about the island's secrets.
  • The Quintuplets display their excitement and knowledge about the island's wildlife.

Significant Themes

  • Mystery and the unknown, hinting at potential supernatural or hidden elements on the island.
  • The contrast between the seemingly mundane and the extraordinary.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya interacts with the Quintuplets, learning about the island's foxes from Rena.
  • The Quintuplets' excitement and shared knowledge create a sense of camaraderie among them.

Ch. 76Getting Soaked Outdoors (Please Subscribe)

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Rena, the Quintuplets, and Inoue Shuya arrive at Rena's hometown, a small island.
  • They visit the Tiger Rock Hot Spring inn, owned by Rena's father.
  • Shuya and the Quintuplets explore the area, ending up at the edge of the back mountain, where they play by a river.
  • Shuya practices his qi control by walking on water and later trains with one of the Quintuplets, Yotsuba.

Character Developments

  • Rena: She reunites with her father, showing a more emotional side.
  • Inoue Shuya: He displays maturity and responsibility by looking after the Quintuplets and shows dedication to his training.
  • The Quintuplets: They exhibit their playful and mischievous nature, leading Shuya to the back mountain despite their grandfather's warning.

Significant Themes

  • Family Reunion: The chapter focuses on Rena's reunion with her father, highlighting the importance of family bonds.
  • Training and Growth: Shuya's water-walking practice emphasizes his dedication to improving his skills.
  • Disobedience and Exploration: The Quintuplets' disregard for their grandfather's warning and Shuya's curiosity about the back mountain highlight the theme of youthful rebellion and exploration.

Character Interactions

  • Rena and her Father: Their reunion is filled with emotion, showing their strong bond.
  • Shuya and the Quintuplets: Shuya takes on a protective role, looking after the Quintuplets and later training with them.
  • Shuya and Rena's Father: Shuya impresses Rena's father with his polite demeanor and understanding of the inn's significance.

Ch. 77An Adventure in the Woods (Please Subscribe)

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Shuya takes the Quintuplets on a husky ride, followed by a refreshing river swim.
  • Shuya begins cultivating the water attribute of his qi while relaxing in the river.
  • On their way back, Shuya encounters foxes in the woods, which he nonchalantly waves goodbye to.
  • Shuya and the Quintuplets return to the inn, where they bathe and have dinner. Shuya is momentarily distracted by Rena's yukata.
  • After dinner, Shuya explores the inn and decides to sneak out to investigate the mountain behind it.

Character Developments

  • Shuya demonstrates his diligence and adaptability by improving himself even during an excursion. He also shows his calm and composed nature, even when soaked and exhausted.
  • The Quintuplets display their energy and enthusiasm, playing happily throughout the day despite not feeling tired.
  • Shuya shows curiosity and a desire for adventure, deciding to explore the mountain despite its ominous appearance at night.

Significant Themes

  • The contrast between nature and city life is highlighted, with the wild charm of nature captivating city dwellers like Shuya.
  • Shuya's cultivation journey is emphasized, with him starting to imitate the water attribute of his qi while in the river.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya interacts playfully with the Quintuplets, carrying them on huskies and playing in the river together.
  • Shuya encounters foxes in the woods, but he nonchalantly waves goodbye to them without any fear or hostility.
  • Shuya's interaction with Rena is brief but notable, as he is momentarily distracted by her yukata during dinner.

Ch. 78The So-Called Concept of “God”

Shuya, equipped with a Vermilion Bird Fire Talisman and a turkey on his head, explores the mountain forest. He discovers a stone staircase leading up to a Shrine, guarded by pairs of foxes. Upon reaching the ninth pair, he sees a Torii Gate and a Shrine, realizing it's a Fox Immortal's territory. He retreats, understanding that the Shrine belongs to a wild fox god, not the Inari God, and that he might not be a match for it.

Ch. 79Sealed Memories

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Shuya encounters a shrine guarded by nine-tailed foxes and flees in fear.
  • He learns about the concept of "gods" in the world of Strange Arts, which are not sentient beings but concepts that can be controlled by humans or animals with strong will.
  • Shuya decides to investigate the truth about the shrine and the island's secrets.

Character Developments

  • Shuya demonstrates his analytical thinking and curiosity, deciding to investigate the shrine despite his initial fear.
  • He shows courage in facing his fears and a willingness to take calculated risks.

Significant Themes

  • The nature of "gods" and their relationship with humans.
  • The dangers of curiosity and the pursuit of knowledge.
  • The contrast between Great Hua and Japan's attitudes towards "becoming a god."

Character Interactions

  • Shuya interacts with the nine-tailed foxes at the shrine, although they do not engage in combat.
  • He reflects on his initial fear and analyzes the situation, showing his ability to learn from his experiences.
  • There are no significant interactions with other characters in this chapter.

Ch. 80The Legend of the Fox God

Key Plot Points and Events

  • Shuya has recurring memories of a pair of beastly eyes and a black world, hinting at a past trauma or secret.
  • Shuya explores the island, visiting the Bell of Vows, and plans to investigate the Shrine secretly.
  • He discovers that fox-related items and legends are prevalent on the island but finds no useful information about the Fox God.

Character Developments

  • Shuya remains curious and determined to uncover the truth about the Fox God and the Shrine.
  • Rena becomes more reserved and mysterious since returning to her hometown.

Significant Themes

  • The power of will and belief in deities.
  • The contrast between tourist attractions and local traditions.
  • The struggle between curiosity and respect for local customs.

Character Interactions

  • Shuya spends time with the Quintuplets, accompanying them to various attractions and keeping his true intentions hidden.
  • Shuya and Rena have minimal interaction, with Rena being more reserved than usual.
  • Shuya observes the locals and their beliefs in the Fox God, but doesn't engage in meaningful conversations with them yet.
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