Hearing Nagato's words, Ren was overjoyed.
As expected, aside from Konan, Nagato's greatest obsession was peace, a pursuit inherited from Yahiko.
Ren had long seen through the true nature of talk-no-jutsu.
Fight first, and once you win, the enemy will naturally listen to you.
Putting aside whether you can get the enemy's approval, at least they'll listen and be willing to talk to you.
"Oh! Do you have a different opinion?"
Although Ren was asking a question, his expression and attitude were so convincing that you just wanted to punch him.
It was as if Nagato was incapable of uttering anything meaningful.
Indeed, Nagato did not say anything that Ren had not expected.
Perhaps knowing that Konan and he were not in mortal danger, or perhaps it was a persona that Ren deliberately cultivated, leading Nagato to believe that Ren was also on the path of pursuing peace.
Of course, the most important thing is that Nagato is no match for Ren right now, and Ren's attitude towards Nagato really makes Nagato very unhappy!
If you can't win in terms of strength, then win in terms of words.
Nagato briefly recounted his experiences without hiding much, since Ren already knew about the relationship between Akatsuki and Amegakure.
Of course, Nagato wasn't naive either. He didn't reveal anything about the specific members of Akatsuki or his own plans, only sharing his thoughts.
"... From that moment on, I understood that the only way to achieve world peace is to make the world feel pain!"
Ren listened quietly to Nagato's long and unoriginal speech, then looked at Nagato as if he were an idiot.
Nagato, who believed his theory was flawless, was extremely disgusted by Ren's gaze, but still patiently explained.
"Only when people truly understand suffering can they appreciate the value of peace and actively pursue it!"
"What if people forget about it ten or decades from now?"
Perhaps feeling sorry for Nagato, Ren still asked a question.
"Then let the world feel pain once again!"
Nagato's answer was resolute.
"Slap, slap, slap!"
After listening, Ren couldn't help but applaud, genuinely agreeing and having already achieved his goal.
Nagato revealed his true feelings!
What Ren needs to do is quite simple: destroy Nagato's illusions and deny Nagato's will.
Nagato, unaware of Ren's true thoughts, watched as Ren clapped continuously, his face no longer showing disdain but a smile.
He felt that his theory had amazed Ren and gained his approval.
Clearly, Nagato had no idea what Ren meant.
"I'm glad you think that way. It seems our approach was successful, and we're on the same page!"
Nagato didn't quite understand what he was saying, but he did understand the last sentence: Ren shared the same thoughts as him.
"It's been over 60 years since the end of the Shinobi World Warring States Era, a time of endless warfare, and the establishment of ninja villages!"
Ren then explained the history of the Shinobi World to Nagato, a fact Nagato was already aware of, and nodded slightly in agreement.
"Whenever the Shinobi World forgets the preciousness of peace, the Five Great Shinobi Villages join forces to launch Shinobi World war, causing pain to the entire world. Afterward, the Shinobi World enters a period of peace, until the next time people forget."
After Ren finished speaking, he counted on his fingers and finally held up four fingers.
"Four times. We've done this four times already. The next time, based on the pattern, should be in more than ten years."
With that, Ren spread his arms wide, speaking with obvious pride.
"Since the birth of ninjas a thousand years ago, the only times there have been peace periods brought to the Shinobi World by Konoha!"
Then, Ren asked Nagato with a bright smile.
"Now do you understand why I won't allow your Akatsuki to disrupt the peace of the Shinobi World?"
Nagato's mind was now like it had been put into a blender and was filled with chaos!
If he could choose again, Nagato would never want to say another word to Ren.
The collapse of his worldview left Nagato completely at a loss, when suddenly Nagato had an idea.
Like a drowning person grasping at a straw, he shouted loudly.
"This is different; you big countries only bring suffering to small countries!"
"So what about you? Would you choose to bring suffering to a powerful nation?"
Ren asked with a smile.
"No, it's enough to make those who try to destroy peace feel the pain!"
"How can you be sure who it is? What if there are innocent people among them?"
Ren persisted in pressing for answers.
"For the sake of peace, a few sacrifices are utterly insignificant!"
Upon hearing Nagato's words, Ren smiled again.
"That's right, that's exactly it. The Second Shinobi World War was caused by Hanzo of the Salamander being dissatisfied with the Land of Rain's status and attempting to break the peace. The three nations of Earth, Fire, and Wind brought suffering to the Land of Rain, and you were just an insignificant sacrifice!"
Before Nagato could refute, Ren continued.
"However, I am very gratified that we did the right thing. This land has given birth to a ninja like you who loves peace and agrees with our ideals!"