The two spoke in private for a long time.
It was all about the Elden Ring.
The state of the Elden Ring would determine the future course of the Lands Between.
They even went out of their way to find books and records, such as accounts of the Dragonlord's era.
Though there were only scattered fragments, legends seemed to say that the Dragonlord had five heads, each governing a different power.
Those powers seemed to be manifestations of law.
Of course, these were only legends and offered nothing they could use as a reference.
There were no records of the Dragon God at all.
But one thing was certain: the Elden Ring of the Dragonlord's era had been different from the one that existed now.
The Elden Ring could be altered, added to, or reduced, and there was room to amend the law as well.
It all depended on what the god wanted to do.
Without Radagon holding her back, Marika might truly set about changing it.
Since they really were being this bold, they might as well charge straight ahead to the end.
Once Miquella and Trina separated, Miquella could get involved and help Marika make the changes.
They could not forget that Trina's deep sleep also needed to become part of the Elden Ring.
The people of the Lands Between deserved a good dream.
Perhaps it could even suppress madness.
And keep the Frenzied Flame from making a comeback.
In fact, Miquella and Zhao Si's vision overlapped with that of the Three Fingers-all things becoming one.
But rather than burning all life away in a single blaze, they would start with the law and reverse the Erdtree's exclusionary nature.
The Turtle Pope had also said that, in the age of the Ancient Erdtree, it had not been exclusionary.