Debate

Thrall followed Zul'ra's instructions and arranged for him to meet with the members of the Thunder Bluff Elder Council in the Hall of Glory the following day at noon to be questioned by them. ♬💢 💘♧

Because it might affect Zul'ra's reputation, Thrall didn't publicize the matter. He only invited a few people, including Lor'themar, Sylvanas, and Vol'jin, to observe and be ready to mediate any potential conflict.

The next day, in the Hall of Glory, Zul'ra arrived early and sat on a chair on the right side of the hall. Out of consideration for his reputation, Thrall did not allow Malacrass or any other Amani'lai to come over.

The Shu'halo members of the Thunder Bluff Elder Council gradually arrived, sitting in a row on the left side of the hall, opposite Zul'ra. At the head of the group was Cairne Bloodhoof, followed by Magatha Grimtotem, then Bena, Tahu, Aponi, and others.

After Zul'ra and Shu'halo took their seats, Thrall, along with Thrall, Sylvanas, Lor'themar Vol'jin, and others, waited. However, their wait became awkward as Zul'ra and the Elder Council were speechless when they faced each other, creating an uncomfortable atmosphere.

"Alright, let's begin now. Everyone, please say what you want to say!" Thrall sensed the awkward atmosphere and stepped forward to start.

"Ahem, Zul'ra Jin..." Magatha Grimtotem looked at the lone Trolls opposite him, and after hearing Thrall's words, he thought that this operation was entirely due to his instigation, and he couldn't remain silent, so he cleared his throat and stepped forward first.

"Please speak." Zul'ra looked at the black-clad woman, Shu'halo, who was coughing and clearing her throat, and couldn't help but perk up and continue his conversation.

"You, I heard that at the Horde's internal meeting, you made a very surprising suggestion, which expressed a desire to change our traditions and use a new administrative model, is that right?" Magatha Grimtotem asked in a deep voice, her voice and words making the hearts of those listening, including Cairne Bloodhoof beside her, jump.

"Yes, my suggestion violated Shu'halo's tradition, and I apologize for that." Zul'ra nodded.

"Why would you make such an outrageous suggestion? Do you know how precious and valuable our traditions are? These traditions have sustained Shu'halo's development for thousands of years?" Magatha Grimtotem's voice gradually became more forceful.

"Do you realize that your destruction of these traditions could lead to the direct collapse of our society? What would we do if that happened?"

Faced with Magatha Grimtotem's stern questioning, not only Thrall and the others standing nearby, but even Zul'ra was a little startled. These words were too serious, and he wanted to launch into a three-part denial. "I didn't, I didn't, don't talk nonsense." Fortunately, he rationally restrained himself from doing so.

"Ms. Magatha Grimtotem, please allow me to address you this way. First, we need to understand one thing: tradition, what does it mean to us?" Zul'ra didn't dare look at Magatha Grimtotem, but instead looked at Cairne Bloodhoof beside her. The old man's face was more gentle.

"Tradition is a habit, a habit formed by our morality, thoughts, culture, customs and institutions. It reflects the habitual expressions passed down from generation to generation. At its core, tradition is the embodiment of our morality, thoughts, culture, customs and institutions, right?" Faced with Zul'ra's description, Cairne Bloodhoof and the others nodded.

"If that's the case, then why do you want to destroy our existing morals, ideas, culture, customs, and systems?" Magatha Grimtotem seized the opportunity.

"No, no, no, Ms. Magatha Grimtotem, you must understand that the significance of the reforms I proposed is not to destroy those things, but to make them progress. Tell me, do you want yourselves to progress?" Zul'ra quickly shook her head, and then asked another question in return.

"Of course." Cairne Bloodhoof was a very honest man, and answered without hesitation.

"Do you think our morals, thoughts, customs, and culture are not high enough?" Magatha Grimtotem glanced at Cairne Bloodhoof beside him, then looked at Zul'ra, his tone somewhat unfriendly.

"Of course not. Shu'halo's noble moral character has always been respected by both the Warchief and me. But everything is relative. What does Shu'halo's noble moral character mean to the Burning Legion?" Zul'ra couldn't refute Shu'halo's moral ideas, so he used a clever comparison.

"As someone who participated in the Battle of Mount Hyjal, Shu'halo should understand even better how terrifying those demons are. Not only are they powerful, but they also have their eyes on our world. Moreover, not to mention the Burning Legion, we have an enemy that is very close at hand: the the Scourge. And if we don't even mention the the Scourge, we have another competitor."

"That's right, the Alliance. Please allow me to call them our opponents. Although I hate to admit it, we are surrounded by enemies, and we have far too many weaknesses when facing them."

Zul'ra stood up from his seat and paced back and forth, speaking to Shu'halo and the others around him. In response to his words, Sylvanas and Lor'themar leaned forward slightly, while Vol'jin tilted his head and nodded as he spoke to Thrall.

"Faced with these enemies and adversaries, I believe it is necessary for us to make changes and further improve and strengthen ourselves."

"Then how can you guarantee that your suggestion will help us improve?" Magatha Grimtotem looked at Zul'ra, who was speaking with great conviction. After thinking about it, she had to admit that the Horde had many enemies and rivals. She acknowledged that the Horde needed to improve, but she disagreed with Zul'ra's suggestion.

"Then I'd like to ask you in return, Ms. Magatha Grimtotem, what level of progress do you expect to make my proposal a success?" Zul'ra looked at the Elder Council, where only Magatha Grimtotem had spoken so far, and her confidence grew. It seemed that Shu'halo's questioning of her here did not mean they were against reform. If she behaved properly, perhaps the best-case scenario would unfold.

"Any suggestion that can advance the Horde tenfold or bring a hundredfold benefit is not worth implementing, because we uphold tradition and will not regress even if there is no progress."

Facing the eloquent Zul'ra, Magatha Grimtotem felt a surge of hope. After quickly devising a cycle, he threw out the opening statement with great force: if Zul'ra could break this cycle, she would be able to back down and agree to the implementation of the reforms, which would be the best outcome.

"This brings us to the origin of tradition. The traditions of all our races originated from the habits accumulated by our ancestors during their long period of survival. In other words, tradition did not exist originally; it was only through the trials of survival that we developed traditions."

Zul'ra was having a bit of a headache. To him, Magatha Grimtotem's words were full of loopholes, but he couldn't refute them, because this world wasn't Earth, nor was it the Great Celestial Empire.

There was no more at night.