Obtained Mark - Main. King of Fear (cont.)
This is the weapon that humankind created; this is the civilization that humankind created.
I, Welt, challenge you on behalf of humanity.
God, come and test whether humanity has the right to live!
The above is the original dialogue, and it should remain unchanged unless I made a typo.
Incidentally, some settings were also mentioned in this chapter of Honkai 3rd.
{It's no wonder Sirin is so angry with Welt. As a "Destroyer of Civilization," she neither acknowledges the value of civilization nor has she suffered from its technology.}
If Welt represents civilization, then Sirin is both a victim of civilization and a victim of its revenge.
Based on the above plot and setting, it is not difficult for us to see some actual situations that are completely different from what is said in the rumors.
It wasn't Old Yang who was provoking them. In fact, from the very beginning, it was Sirin who initiated the killing. After failing to kill, it was Sirin who became furious and denied humanity. Old Yang's statement that he was declaring war on behalf of humanity came at the time when Sirin was furious and jumping up and down after failing to kill. Welt was responding to Sirin's furious statement.
The setting also clearly states that Sirin's revenge is for civilization—this is something that the Babylon Tower of Schicksal caused her mentally.
I don't think anyone here will jump out and say something like, "Welt shouldn't have used human weapons to provoke Sirin," right?
To summarize briefly.
1. When Sirin was about to destroy the world, Welt had not yet met her.
2. The Conversation Collapse Expert is talking nonsense. It was Sirin who initiated the killing and provoked the Sirin. Welt only responded after Sirin committed both the killing and the provocation.
3. The setting clearly states that Sirin wanted revenge against civilization because of the Babylon Tower, not because of the rumor that "Sirin initially only wanted to kill the Schicksal monster Welt to provoke her".
Of course, I know some people won't give up and will insist, "[Sirin was almost won over by Cecilia, but in the end, Welt intervened and broke her spirit, so the negotiations still fell apart.]"
Of course, here's another rumor that's not really a rumor.
Old Yang didn't win his first battle against Sirin in a one-on-one fight; he won in a group brawl.
In fact, Old Yang was considered a support character in the Second Honkai Eruption, but his combat ability was indeed not very good.
In the story, Old Yang also has a clear understanding of his own position. When he first faced Sirin, he didn't really think he could win in a one-on-one fight. His thought was, "If I can just stall her a little longer, that will be fine."
Old Yang was almost killed, but Einstein and Tesla's Silver Bullet came flying, which gave Old Yang the opportunity to successfully kill Sirin.
Okay, let's start a new paragraph and review the plot that follows.
Picking up where we left off, let's take a look at the aftermath of the Second Honkai Eruption.
Starting from episode 48 of the Second Honkai Eruption, when Siegfried wounded Bella and was then captured by Sirin, what exactly did Welt, the so-called Conversation Collapse Expert, 'talk' in the story?
Up to chapter 52, Welt hadn't spoken to Sirin at all; he only appeared to tell Siegfried to open his eyes and wake up.
Of course, Siegfried remembered this incident and thought it was a nightmare.
Continuing on, up to chapter 53, the relationship between Sirin and Cecilia is indeed steadily growing stronger, and in this chapter, Welt reappears, preparing to awaken Siegfried.
Siegfried roared in response to the provocation, causing the glass on this side of the shop to shatter.
At the time, Sirin thought the glass was a minor issue, but Cecilia lunged at her to protect Sirin.
This was actually an opportunity for their relationship to further develop.
Contrary to the so-called rumors, Welt, the Conversation Collapse Expert, had no such intention, but his actions were actually helping to warm up the relationship between the two parties.
Continuing on, Siegfried still hasn't woken up.
In reality, Bella was defeated after being attacked by Nicholas and inflicted with wounds by the Flame-Chaser's Judgment.
Then, in episode 57, just as Sirin was starting to feel a little moved, Bella died, and Sirin immediately turned on her and prepared to kill Siegfried.
Then Cecilia revealed her skills to save Siegfried, which made Sirin realize that Cecilia was not controlled by Feathered Dust, and thus she felt that Cecilia was lying.
Here is a summary.
From the moment Sirin entered the illusion until her complete break with Sirin and Siegfried wife, Welt didn't say a word to Sirin. His efforts to wake Siegfried indirectly led to the deepening of Sirin's relationship with Cecilia.
The reason why Sirin turned against Siegfried and his wife was entirely because Bella was killed outside. [Of course, this cannot be blamed on Nicholas and Kira. The dragon was killing people and they were not allowed to kill, right? I have to say, it was a good thing to kill her.]
In other words, given that she would turn against Cecilia the moment the dragon died, Sirin was destined not to live a peaceful life with Cecilia because of this.
So what did Welt do next? He was the first to jump out and help Cecilia and Siegfried retreat after they were attacked.
After Sirin caught up, Welt chose to stay behind to cover their retreat.
Even during the rearguard action, Welt managed to hold off Sirin for a while, while outside, Einstein and Tesla had already activated Alahat, which possessed the Moonlight Throne.
Although the initial plan failed, the Moonlight Throne successfully weakened the connection between Sirin and the Herrscher Core.
It has been weakened to the point where Einstein could manipulate Alahato to strip away the core of Sirin's Herrscher Core.
After that, Alahato successfully stripped away the Conquest of Thunder, so from that moment on, Sirin only had five cores.
Here's a clarification: the rumor circulating online that Siegfried beat up Six-Core Sirin is probably a case of forgetting that part of the story; the Herrscher of Thunder Core has already been stolen.
Additionally, what is being stripped here is the core of the Herrscher of Thunder. In fact, according to the storyline, the six core Herrscher of the Herrscher of the Void are the most difficult to strip, and the remaining five cores are each counted as 20%.
Once the core of the Herrscher of Reason is removed, Welt's core, freed from Sirin's control, might be able to prolong the time in the consciousness space. Perhaps the Anti-Entropy Group can even remove a second core later.
Even if what is extracted is not the core of the Herrscher of Reason, as long as the core of the Herrscher of Death is extracted, Sirin will be instantly killed by Theresa. Even after Theresa activates the Divine Prayer Barrier, Sirin's Herrscher of the Void Core energy may not have a chance to go berserk—that's how unreasonable the Divine Prayer Barrier is.
It's fair to say that Old Yang's Anti-Entropy team really threatened Sirin this time; they were just incredibly unlucky.
As for the talks breaking down... after reading the plot summary, I don't think anyone would still say that the talks broke down, right?
There was no point in even discussing it; how could the talks possibly fall apart?
Previously, when people talked about Old Yang Conversation Collapse Expert, it was just a joke. Is it because there have been more new fans in recent years who haven't read the Second Honkai Eruption comic carefully that this joke has started to spread and become more serious?
Next one.
Rumor - The Sania clan were created by Otto.
It's a complete rumor; the source is probably Enolii's statement in the Violet Everlasting.
[The surname bestowed upon me by Lord Otto: Sania].
To state the conclusion first, the act of bestowing a surname can only be said to be something that the person bestowing the surname has the right to do. There has never been a saying that "he bestowed a surname on someone = he created a clan". The emergence of this rumor is purely due to the creation of an equation and then starting to speculate, which is a conclusion that has no basis whatsoever.
Moreover, considering the plot at the time, Otto's Schicksal position before the Tianming Eastern Expedition was—son of a bishop + accompanying military doctor.
It's true that he made medicine after returning, but there's no plot indication that his position was promoted much.
I think those who praise Otto all say that Otto's father didn't value him [which is true, of course], but they can't understand how a neglected son of a bishop could 'create' a race?
That's outrageous.
Furthermore, judging from the subsequent plot, Otto's mother was actually a high-ranking member of the Sania clan, and it was he who asked his mother for the surname Enolii.
If you have to define their relationship as that of adopted siblings, Kallen refers to them as "your sister Enolii" in the story. The Sania clan, one of the Trio of Schicksal, has existed from the beginning, and Otto is even a member of it.
Next one.
Rumor: Without Otto, the Black Death would have killed all of humanity at the time; without Otto, humanity wouldn't have survived for the next five hundred years.
Actually, there was no need to refute it, because anyone with eyes can see it's pure nonsense.
However, considering that there are too many people repeating this, and the white noise bomb tactic is starting to show obvious signs, I should at least say something when debunking the rumors.
Let's see what the plot says about this setting.
In the Second Honkai Eruption 2, Honkai Classroom, it is explicitly mentioned that "in the Honkai world," the Black Death swept across Europe, and "because humanity was medically powerless to resist it," it killed one-third of Europe's population.
The fact that the world has been Honkai is enough to show that this is not something that happened in the real world.
Yes, it's explicitly stated here that Otto didn't manage to control the Black Death in the Honkai world at all, and it's specifically emphasized that "humanity was medically powerless to resist it"—clearly telling you that what Otto did was largely ineffective.
Does this conflict with the plot of the Violet Everlasting Otto saves Enolii...?
The answer is clearly no.
If we read the Violet Everlasting, we will find that people like Enolii who can be saved are actually a minority.
What was the situation at the time? The Black Death was sweeping across the world, Otto was working hard to develop a medicine [truly doing a good deed, worthy of praise]. However, the problem was that very few people could withstand the medicine, and there was another major issue.
Even if the drug was stabilized, Otto couldn't mass-produce it. The technology at that time was still in the Middle Ages. How could he mass-produce this drug to save others?
Under these circumstances, the drugs Otto produced were destined to be [highly effective drugs that could not be mass-produced and carried risks].
Given the level of corruption within the Schicksal Mandate leadership at the time, this drug would definitely have been used first on those directly involved in the Schicksal Mandate leadership, followed by those who bought and sold large quantities of Indulgences. Ordinary civilians wanting to use it? You're dreaming.
Otto's actions were indeed commendable, but the effect was not as good as everyone imagined. The unstable efficacy and the inability to mass-produce the drug meant that it could only be used on a small number of people at most. In the face of the Black Death, which killed a third of the European population, was the number of people Otto saved enough to fill the Honkai in their teeth?
So I've always been curious why some people would claim that Otto suppressed the Black Death and saved Europeans, to the point that without Otto, humanity wouldn't have survived to this day.
The official lore clearly states that the Black Death killed a third of Europe's population because humanity was medically powerless to resist it.
Otto's medicine was not as powerful as they claimed, and Europe was not saved by Otto; people really died.
As for the claim that humanity wouldn't have survived to this day without Otto, that's pure nonsense, and I won't go into that.
To put it simply, look at Otto's record against the Black Death and you'll see that those who praise him are just spouting nonsense.
Next one.
I don't know if this counts as a clarification, but it's something I put here anyway.
Kiana and Mei knew each other/did not know each other before the Third Honkai Outbreak.
Both storylines exist, but I chose the one I was familiar with when writing this book.
This whole mess can be traced back to the short anime series Herrscher of Herrscher of Thunder Awakening Arc mentions that Mei met Kiana when she was being bullied.
And then what happens next—it gets eaten!
When Mei was chatting with Mei and Raven Kiana, she mentioned that she didn't have many friends in the past and that she wasn't very close to Mei at the time.
I suggest the editors who wrote these two scenes should have a fight. jpg
That's all I can think of for now. Let me see if there are any other things I need to clarify or create conflicts with, and then I'll do a second episode.
Character Role Delineation [Otto Special Issue]
(I) Introduction
In fact, anyone who has read this book should know what the special edition on this character's role will contain.
However, I still want to remind you that if you really like Otto, don't watch this, it will make you feel uncomfortable.
The following is the main text.
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(II) Opening Remarks
Let's first steer the conversation back to the early to mid-stages after the completion of the previous book and the start of this one.
After the previous book ended, I mentioned in the main character design section that I was conceiving another book at the time, in which Kevin, Kallen, and Siegfried were people from the same era [secondary setting], and Otto was on the main character's side because Kallen didn't die.
Of course, because I felt this book had many problems, I ultimately decided to abandon it before it even got off the ground.
However, this is enough to show that my dislike for Otto wasn't that severe at the time.
Back then, I shared similar thoughts with some of Hedgehog Cat's readers: Otto did something terrible and died, so his death was just that—death. I was too lazy to talk about it.
As a result, when I was writing this new book, I started to revisit some of the main storylines and looked at other Honkai 3rd fanfics on this site at the time, and I discovered some problems.
I feel like Otto's character is being hyped up more and more wildly among readers.
Here I'd like to mention some comments I saw when I first got into Honkai 3rd three or four years ago.
Around the end of 2020 to the middle of 2021, before the Twilight of the Fool arc was released, I saw the claim that 'Otto suppressed technology to a certain level to suppress the Honkai.'
There were so many people saying that, and back then, I hadn't read much of the setting and had only gone through the story once, so I, like any other Honkai player/ Honkai, believed it.
However, when I later looked up the information, I found that in the Q&A section of the Sword Breaker series in 2020, miHoYo had Otto speak about some things himself.
When Otto entered the Void Archive, this all-encompassing library, he didn't have indexing permissions. The books Otto flipped through had no covers and no indexing permissions, so it was already quite remarkable that he was able to uncover so much information.
The premise of this statement was that the Q&A mentioned that Otto's Void Archive did not contain information on the [Divine Key] and [Moonlight Throne], and that the Valkyrie's training methods were obtained from Fu Hua. This is enough to show that although Otto was dressed Rosharian in the Q&A at the time, he was clearly referring to events five hundred years in the future when he said this.