One Piece: Wrong Fruit at the Start, I'm Invincible
Chapter 407

Crushing Opponents 1v2 in Battle

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Most netizens probably lean towards the view that Jiraiya is stronger. This is not only due to Jiraiya and likable personality, but also because he has shown amazing strength in many battles in Naruto, and even defeated six of Pain's clones at one point.

However, some netizens countered. "Orochimaru once crushed his opponents in a 1v2 battle against the Legendary Sannin, and he also possesses advanced technologies like the Edo Tensei, making his true strength unfathomable. Therefore, Orochimaru, who has always been in the shadows, may not necessarily be weaker than Jiraiya!"

So today we'll have a debate, using facts and evidence to discuss. "Who is stronger Jiraiya or Orochimaru?"

[Proponent's view: Jiraiya is clearly superior!]

[Argument 1] Jiraiya the battle of the Legendary Sannin, and Orochimaru had gone mad from training. Those who have seriously watched * Naruto * know that although it appeared on the surface that Legendary Sannin was fighting Jiraiya and Orochimaru in a 1v2 battle, in reality, none of the three were truly fighting. Jiraiya and Tsunade, in particular, clearly still had energy to spare (Tsunade Orochimaru, as a support-type ninja, was indeed significantly weaker in individual combat).

Therefore, it's naive to conclude that "Orochimaru's strength is equal to Jiraiya + Tsunade's." Jiraiya truly unleashed his full power during his battle with Six Paths of Pain, where Jiraiya used virtually all his skills to destroy all six of Pain's puppets. Although Jiraiya ultimately died a heroic death, this demonstrates that Jiraiya's strength was such that he could fight Pain, even at a stalemate, against his incomplete form.

Now let's look at Orochimaru, who seems to have gone mad from practicing his martial arts, is incredibly weak, and is on the verge of death. Do you think he has the strength to go toe-to-toe with Pain? The answer is obvious. If he really had that strength, would he have needed to defect from Akatsuki?

[Argument Two] Although Jiraiya and Orochimaru never had a proper one-on-one fight, their strength can be indirectly compared through other people's experiences. Remember when the Akatsuki first emerged, Itachi led Hoshigaki Kisame to Konoha to capture Naruto. At that time Itachi said that Jiraiya would be a big problem, so they couldn't defeat Jiraiya. Although they tried to lure Jiraiya away with a honey trap to capture Naruto, Jiraiya arrived in time to stop them. This shows that Itachi's strength was below Jiraiya's.

Next, we only need to compare Itachi and Orochimaru. These two actually fought each other. Back then, Orochimaru ambushed Itachi in order to steal his Sharingan, but he was not only killed in the process, but was also completely defeated by him with one hand. This shows that Orochimaru's strength was far inferior to Itachi's. Itachi didn't even bother to kill him at that time.

So how can a mere Itachi, who couldn't Jiraiya, Orochimaru completely overwhelmed Itachi? Therefore, "Li Jufu," our side firmly believes that Jiraiya's strength far surpasses Orochimaru's.

[Opposing viewpoint: Orochimaru's strength is definitely superior to Jiraiya's!]

[Argument 1] Orochimaru, as a genius ninja of Konoha, far surpasses Jiraiya in both talent and intellect. Jiraiya and Orochimaru were students of the Third Naruto when they were young. Back then, Jiraiya was always a weakling against Orochimaru, easily defeated in numerous battles. Even the Third Naruto often expressed his frustration with Jiraiya, Orochimaru, "Can't you learn from Orochimaru?"

At the time, Jiraiya a bottom-of-the-class student, didn't have Naruto's protagonist aura. What could he rely on to compare with Orochimaru? A child's character is formed by age three, Jiraiya had already lost at the starting line. When Orochimaru defected from the ninja village, Jiraiya, like Naruto, went to that familiar canyon and fought Orochimaru, attempting to bring him back to the village.

Even with all his might, Jiraiya's efforts were futile; Orochimaru easily defeated him and left gracefully. Therefore, from their first meeting to their separation, Jiraiya was always Orochimaru's defeated opponent, which speaks volumes. Many might say that Jiraiya and eventually surpassed Orochimaru, but think about it: was Orochimaru playing chess or sleeping while Jiraiya was training? Furthermore, Orochimaru's intellect and talent far surpass Jiraiya's, so Jiraiya's strength will never catch up to Orochimaru's.

[Argument Two] Although Jiraiya possessed Sage Mode, Orochimaru, being a tech geek, also had a lot of high-tech gadgets. While Orochimaru didn't achieve a perfect Sage Mode, he possessed advanced technology that was no less impressive than Sage Mode!

As we all know, Orochimaru's training has always been genuine, making him seem like an alchemist who accidentally traveled into the Naruto world... Living Corpse Reincarnation, Edo Tensei, Rashomon, Kusanagi Sword, and all these inexplicable things were all researched and developed by this tech geek Orochimaru. Putting everything else aside, just the fact that he unearthed a few historically abnormal ninjas with Edo Tensei is enough to give Jiraiya a run for his money.

Jiraiya always looked sickly because he needed an adjustment period after being reincarnated into a new body. Orochimaru, on the other hand, has always had bad luck. First, he was devoured by Sasuke, and then he was sealed by Itachi with the Totsuka Blade, leaving him without even a human form. If Orochimaru and Jiraiya were to have a fair one-on-one duel, Orochimaru's various advanced techniques could wipe out Jiraiya and a whole swarm of toads in an area-of-effect attack.

Personally, I think Jiraiya is the strongest, followed by Orochimaru and Tsunade. It's well known that Orochimaru couldn't Sasuke Sasuke's brother, Itachi (Orochimaru said Itachi was stronger). Pain, the leader of Akatsuki and Itachi's boss, is now struggling against Jiraiya, so we can conclude that Itachi and Jiraiya are roughly equal. As for Itachi's previous statement to his best friend Hoshigaki Kisame that the two of them combined could barely fight Jiraiya to a draw, while that was a modest statement, it's possible they could even fight to a draw in a one-on-one fight. Since the claim that Itachi could fight Jiraiya one-on-one is true, it proves that Jiraiya is stronger than Orochimaru. As for Tsunade, seeing her fight Orochimaru to his limit even without arms, there's no need to elaborate. One more point: Manda was killed by the explosion, so it seems it's not a big deal. Jiraiya's Sage Mode should be able to handle it.

In the world of Naruto, there are many heartbreaking storylines, such as the battles between master and student. There are quite a few examples of this, such as the Third Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Nagato, Minato and Obito Uchiha, and so on.

This setup is really intriguing. Everyone should have heard of the Three Legendary Sannin, right? They are Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru. These three ninjas should be the backbone of Konoha, but Orochimaru betrayed Konoha for some reason. What's most shocking is that Orochimaru wanted to destroy Konoha and killed his own teacher, the Third Hokage.

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